Is she saying that even tho she was the "first lady" she was still a normal person first? I hope so because it could also be read as her defining herself by her gender role which would be troubling.
Anders Öhlund women absolutely did define themselves by gender in those days, as did everyone else. Even we believed we were the "gentler sex" till the strong women proved us wrong.
ann kiszt Yes I know. Many still do unfortunately even if it is a lot better now. But if that is what she meant it would be horrible as an inspirational quote. But I do believe that she meant it more in the way of foremost being a woman (a person) in comparison to simply being her public role.
Anders Öhlund I think today it means, to women, somethig more like insisting on a right to be female and define what that means, rather than being told what it means, or that they are only that, or that they can't be anything else and still be women. We want to be equal, but not the same. For a long time, being equal meant mimicking the lucky gender and that's been hard and damaging for us. We are redefining roles, jobs, careers, and genders, to show that female ways are not inferior, and can often be the superior solution.
ann kiszt I agree that what you say is important though I don't think it is relevant to what she meant at the time. Then again I realize I "remix" quotes myself all the time =)
Corina Marinescu No, I did not. I did not mean you or any one.
I just wanted to provide a different perspective to commenters here. For example, if she did not say that, what does it mean that what we discuss here? Just think about this situation. Hahaha...
Can we find the quote from a book or speech? Sometimes providing an author name is not an effect evidence because no one knows whether the person really said or not. That's it. Sorry for my bad word. Forgive me, my English is not mother tongue.
Corina Marinescu If my explanation is not reasonable or you feel I am a troll, block or drop me from your circle. I will accept my fault and bad manner of message delivery.
If you need an evidence you can search and find out for yourself Leo Lee, I don't have time for spoon feeding. Also, this quote has a personal meaning to me....means that no matter if you're a mother, a doctor, a wife etc...you shouldn't lose your feminity...that is all. Is not a debate about what it means or should mean....words touch people in different ways.
Corina Marinescu That is good you have meaningful quotes in your life.
Bring it up is my pure curiosity. I am curious that how you got the quote. Did you read a book written by her or visited a place to hear her speech. That's it.
No luck I cannot find the reference of the quote. I believe someone in your circles will find the source soon in order to prove I am wrong.
Anyway, I did not mean to touch your nerve from this incidence. If you still upset with what I wrote, please let me know. If you won't, I will drop you from my circle to avoid future similar incidents. I don't want to make the second mistake that might hurt your feeling again. Sorry.
True! She was a great woman!
ReplyDeleteYou have many of her qualities, that I can see , from a far away land... Make sure that, you know this M. Marinescu.......smiling.
ReplyDeleteMakes me think of the Bee Gee's song.
ReplyDelete"More than a woman
More than a woman to me"
Is she saying that even tho she was the "first lady" she was still a normal person first? I hope so because it could also be read as her defining herself by her gender role which would be troubling.
ReplyDeleteAnders Öhlund women absolutely did define themselves by gender in those days, as did everyone else. Even we believed we were the "gentler sex" till the strong women proved us wrong.
ReplyDeleteann kiszt Yes I know. Many still do unfortunately even if it is a lot better now. But if that is what she meant it would be horrible as an inspirational quote. But I do believe that she meant it more in the way of foremost being a woman (a person) in comparison to simply being her public role.
ReplyDeleteAnders Öhlund I think today it means, to women, somethig more like insisting on a right to be female and define what that means, rather than being told what it means, or that they are only that, or that they can't be anything else and still be women. We want to be equal, but not the same. For a long time, being equal meant mimicking the lucky gender and that's been hard and damaging for us. We are redefining roles, jobs, careers, and genders, to show that female ways are not inferior, and can often be the superior solution.
ReplyDeleteann kiszt I agree that what you say is important though I don't think it is relevant to what she meant at the time. Then again I realize I "remix" quotes myself all the time =)
ReplyDeleteLeo Lee
ReplyDeleteI'll just pretend you didn't said I'm stupid....once, second - I already mentioned the author of the quote.
Corina Marinescu No, I did not. I did not mean you or any one.
ReplyDeleteI just wanted to provide a different perspective to commenters here. For example, if she did not say that, what does it mean that what we discuss here? Just think about this situation. Hahaha...
Can we find the quote from a book or speech? Sometimes providing an author name is not an effect evidence because no one knows whether the person really said or not. That's it.
Sorry for my bad word. Forgive me, my English is not mother tongue.
Corina Marinescu If my explanation is not reasonable or you feel I am a troll, block or drop me from your circle. I will accept my fault and bad manner of message delivery.
ReplyDeleteIf you need an evidence you can search and find out for yourself Leo Lee, I don't have time for spoon feeding.
ReplyDeleteAlso, this quote has a personal meaning to me....means that no matter if you're a mother, a doctor, a wife etc...you shouldn't lose your feminity...that is all.
Is not a debate about what it means or should mean....words touch people in different ways.
Corina Marinescu That is good you have meaningful quotes in your life.
ReplyDeleteBring it up is my pure curiosity. I am curious that how you got the quote. Did you read a book written by her or visited a place to hear her speech. That's it.
No luck I cannot find the reference of the quote. I believe someone in your circles will find the source soon in order to prove I am wrong.
Anyway, I did not mean to touch your nerve from this incidence. If you still upset with what I wrote, please let me know. If you won't, I will drop you from my circle to avoid future similar incidents. I don't want to make the second mistake that might hurt your feeling again. Sorry.
You're wasting my time Leo Lee. Learn some history!
ReplyDeleteand consider the source! ;)
ReplyDelete