Brexit vote rattles UK and European scientists
Because we all know that there was no funding for particle physics research before the EU became what it is today, and scientists from different countries were basically prohibited from collaborating.
And before everyone starts with comments about US or other single nation achievements in science let me remind you that top-level science can't be achieved by a single nation these days. If you truly think that, I recommend you go back to the 1700s.
Here's what the Brexit result means for science, particularly physics, in the UK and the rest of Europe.
Read the article:
http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/magazine/physicstoday/news/10.1063/PT.5.1078
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Haha 1700's agree
ReplyDeleteChina can. Japan can. Australia can. French cancan
ReplyDeleteThe USA is actually 50 separate states working together. I do agree humanity is at its best when it works together. The EU is a good training/play ground for some parts of humanity. In any group there will be those who contribute and those that consume the bounty of effort. I really hate to see pure science used for the furtherance of political agendas.
ReplyDeleteDavid Zimmerman So many states of the same peoples is one thing, try adding the whole of South America and Canada to your collective, and maybe throw in Germany as well, and see how you get on. You won't. The UK is made up of different regions that some call countries, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England, and we work together as we should, but throw other countries outside of the UK into the mix, and there are problems. So don't kid yourself that your working together as yourself is a wonderful thing, just imagine what it would be like for you Americans if you had to get approval for everything you do, from Germany. It just wouldn't happen, so don't lecture us here in the UK about something you couldn't or wouldn't do yourself.
ReplyDeleteAlso, just because the UK is out of the EU, does not mean you have to stop working with us on science. Unless you have some other agenda, the world needs to work together still, the UK hasn't moved to another galaxy, and this whole post stinks of a political attack on the UK.
ReplyDeleteStephen Peel no one is attacking here the UK or British people.
ReplyDeleteUK is out of EU and there will be consequences, that is all. I'm only interested how this will affect science sector no more, no less. If you don't like my opinion...don't read!!
Corina Marinescu
ReplyDeleteHi, I wouldn't know if I liked or disliked your opinion if I hadn't read it, and as I have, I am also giving you my own opinion. "Consequences" are usually seen as negatives, and I agree that there may be some, but there could also be positives. The negatives and positives are yet to be seen. But from where I am, all we here about is how bad this all is, and how the ordinary British people at ground level do not have the brain capacity to understand what they have just done, as the holy than thou have not given the working people a second thought. I will take your advice and no longer read your material, but I do wish you well.
Stephen Peel my opinion stands, top-level science can't be achieved by a single nation these days. Scientists in any field have to have the right and opportunity to work together for the good of humanity.
ReplyDeleteAll the best and thanks for the inside thoughts.
Cheers,
Corina Marinescu I agree completely, that everyone needs to work together in science and virtually everything else. We don't all need to be one nation to do that, and in fact it is beneficial when there are actually different nations working on a project together, all offering different opinions and ideas. We are still a wonderful nation, and we encourage you all to work with us, as we have no intention of not working with you all. I won't hold you any more :) Al the best. Steve
ReplyDeleteNeed I remind anyone that the one time some of our states tried to leave our union we had the bloodiest conflict with the greatest loss of life of any conflict I am aware of. The view of our President in recommending Britain stay in the EU may have been swayed by the USA's civil war and its horrors. We still have parts of the country that fly the confederate flag and will not have anything to do with "Yankees" or "Northerners".
ReplyDeleteMr. Peel is correct in that people of all nations should be free to collaborate on Pure Science studies and missions. As long as the data acquired during the collaboration is shared with everyone so no one nation gets a foot up on all the others it would be a great thing.